schlitt.info - php, photography and private stuff ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ :Author: Tobias Schlitt :Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:29:46 +0100 :Revision: 1 :Copyright: CC by-nc-sa ============== Testing Gentoo ============== :Description: Today I'll try out Gentoo Linux. Until now I used Debian on all of my machines. Of course, Debian stable (no more Woody, but now Sarge) is always for me the best choice for servers, but maybe Debian unstable is not the best solution for desktops and notebooks. I usually installed Knoppix on those kinds of machines, to get a preconfigured X and hardware recognition. Of course the initial installation works fine, but all further upgrades seem to break the system more and more, I think because of the customizations Knoppix has in respect to pure Debian. Today I'll try out `Gentoo Linux`__. Until now I used `Debian`__ on all of my machines. Of course, Debian stable (no more Woody, but now Sarge) is always for me the best choice for servers, but maybe Debian unstable is not the best solution for desktops and notebooks. I usually installed `Knoppix`__ on those kinds of machines, to get a preconfigured X and hardware recognition. Of course the initial installation works fine, but all further upgrades seem to break the system more and more, I think because of the customizations Knoppix has in respect to pure Debian. .. __: http://www.gentoo.org .. __: http://www.debian.org .. __: http://www.knoppix.org So, for now, I'll try to install Gentoo and look what it's like. Of course installing Gentoo can last pretty long, because of the compilation processes, so it maybe that I'm offline until Monday or something like that... .. Local Variables: mode: rst fill-column: 79 End: vim: et syn=rst tw=79 Trackbacks ========== Comments ======== - Jacques Marneweck at Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:30:19 +0200 Have you taken a look at [http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD] for your servers? I'm running FreeBSD on all the servers that I admin. ;) - Toby at Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:15:29 +0200 Hmmm... always wanted to try out FreeBSD. The problem is, that I'm now used to Debian and know pretty much how things are done... Of course, my Debian Server runs stable now for over 2 years, so the chances are not good, that I switch that soon... Of course, I will try FreeBSD on my dev server, when I set it up again next time! :) Thanks for the reminder! - Gaud at Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:20:07 +0200 I am using Linux since almost 8 years now and I had the occasion to try a lot of distributions and see them evoluate. I am now using Ubuntu Linux. It's based on debian but it's aimed at the desktop/workstation use. It has great hardware support. I use it on my laptop and home machine. I got software hibernation right out of the box.. I also tried Gentoo for almost a year, It's a really great distribution that you can customize to your need. The problem with it, is that you have to own a monster machine that can handle hours and hours of compilation, this is not always perfect for a workstation. For Gentoo, if you don't already knows about distcc, I strongly suggest that you take a look. to conclude, take a look at Ubuntu.. Daniel Gauthier - Andreas at Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:32:13 +0200 If you don't want to wait, use precompiled GRP-packages (Gentoo Reference Plattform) and use Stage 3: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2005.0/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=1#doc_chap2 - Gaud at Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:36:02 +0200 I see that GRP doesn't always provides the latest version. Is using GRP give you the ability to customize your system (example: -kde +gnome) ? - Andreas at Wed, 15 Jun 2005 00:06:31 +0200 You get new Version 2-3 times a year with every new gentoo release. The next release (2005.1) is planned for august: http://www.beejaysworld.de/archives/34-Preparing-Gentoo-2005.1.html You con find the following packages on the package-cd: http://gentoo.osuosl.org/releases/x86/2005.0/packagecd/CONTENTS And it's right, you cannot customize your system as good as compiling everything yourself. So what you can do is installing really large packages (X, KDE, OpenOffice, Mozilla Firefox...) from GRP-CD, and install smaller packages (with special USE-Flags) from source. If you want full control you have to install everything from source - the choice is up to you ;-)